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		<title>By: jazzmann91</title>
		<link>http://g-a-i-a.org/opinion/atlas-shrugged//comment-page-1#comment-2515</link>
		<dc:creator>jazzmann91</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jul 2011 21:16:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>interesting comment. thanks for adding your impression on Ayn Rand. Did you like Atlas Shrugged?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>interesting comment. thanks for adding your impression on Ayn Rand. Did you like Atlas Shrugged?</p>
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		<title>By: Michael R. Brown</title>
		<link>http://g-a-i-a.org/opinion/atlas-shrugged//comment-page-1#comment-2482</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael R. Brown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jun 2011 23:03:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Contrary to so much of the disinformation out there about her, it isn&#039;t the case that Ayn Rand was against charity. She was personally charitable to her friends and donated to help Israel defend itself. In her own words: &quot;My views on charity are very simple. I do not consider it a major virtue and, above all, I do not consider it a moral duty. There is nothing wrong in helping other people, if and when they are worthy of the help and you can afford to help them. I regard charity as a marginal issue. What I am fighting is the idea that charity is a moral duty and a primary virtue.&quot; 

Her point was that you have to have a healthy non-charitable sector in order to be able to provide charity, and that economic freedom (and nothing else) provides that health. How much can one donate if one is starving or dies at age 35, as before technology one did.
 
Government welfare is a perversion of charity because it is ill-managed and cripples the productive sector over time. Look at the tens of trillions in unfunded liabilities that are going to cripple our economy; and it&#039;s just going to get worse unless we get the system right.

One part of the foolishness of the recent debates about Rand is the idea that agreeing with Rand&#039;s prediction and diagnoses in &quot;Atlas Shrugged&quot; - the accuracy of which has been demonstrated in the last few years to a nicety - somehow magically commits one to agreement with her total philosophy. Would this argument be extended to an atheist leftist who recommends Tolstoy or Victor Hugo?

The other part is a specific misrepresentation of Christianity. Christianity is not a pro-Statism religion; indeed, given who killed their Savior, it tends to the anti-State. (This is something the left has not yet dealt with.) Nowhere in the Bible does it say that wealth should be expropriated and redistributed by the dubious means of government structures; it speaks of personal and *voluntary* charity. One might add, looking at the horrific debt and unfunded liabilities situation that the U.S. is in right now, that the Bible and Jesus were wise in staying away from government panaceas.

This entire kabuki charade is in bad faith. The Bible does not advocate any Progressive notions of &quot;economic justice.&quot; The progressives who have suddenly discovered religion and its necessary role in politics - after thirty decades and more of stridently and rightly insisting it must be kept out of politics - are not sincere. After this temporary rhetorical bubble is over, they will resume their previous, also ad-hoc, declarations.

As for the &quot;sociopath&quot; accusation, this is what comes of copying attack website garbage. The whole thing rests upon one author - Michael Prescott&#039;s - highly selective excerpting and chopping up of a private [i.e., thinking out loud without clarifications ] journal written when Rand was barely out of her teens, fresh from the blood bath of 1920s Soviet Russia - and still made it very clear that her read on the personalities of the observers showed that they were not appalled by Hickman&#039;s crime - she said there had been far worse, without the same spectacle of glee - but by his flamboyant and mocking defiance of society. She - who was writing about a *legally innocent man* at the time of the trial - even called him a monster, a pervert, a repulsive and purposeless criminal. Enough with the disinformation and - yes - Satanizing of Ayn Rand.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Contrary to so much of the disinformation out there about her, it isn&#8217;t the case that Ayn Rand was against charity. She was personally charitable to her friends and donated to help Israel defend itself. In her own words: &#8220;My views on charity are very simple. I do not consider it a major virtue and, above all, I do not consider it a moral duty. There is nothing wrong in helping other people, if and when they are worthy of the help and you can afford to help them. I regard charity as a marginal issue. What I am fighting is the idea that charity is a moral duty and a primary virtue.&#8221; </p>
<p>Her point was that you have to have a healthy non-charitable sector in order to be able to provide charity, and that economic freedom (and nothing else) provides that health. How much can one donate if one is starving or dies at age 35, as before technology one did.</p>
<p>Government welfare is a perversion of charity because it is ill-managed and cripples the productive sector over time. Look at the tens of trillions in unfunded liabilities that are going to cripple our economy; and it&#8217;s just going to get worse unless we get the system right.</p>
<p>One part of the foolishness of the recent debates about Rand is the idea that agreeing with Rand&#8217;s prediction and diagnoses in &#8220;Atlas Shrugged&#8221; &#8211; the accuracy of which has been demonstrated in the last few years to a nicety &#8211; somehow magically commits one to agreement with her total philosophy. Would this argument be extended to an atheist leftist who recommends Tolstoy or Victor Hugo?</p>
<p>The other part is a specific misrepresentation of Christianity. Christianity is not a pro-Statism religion; indeed, given who killed their Savior, it tends to the anti-State. (This is something the left has not yet dealt with.) Nowhere in the Bible does it say that wealth should be expropriated and redistributed by the dubious means of government structures; it speaks of personal and *voluntary* charity. One might add, looking at the horrific debt and unfunded liabilities situation that the U.S. is in right now, that the Bible and Jesus were wise in staying away from government panaceas.</p>
<p>This entire kabuki charade is in bad faith. The Bible does not advocate any Progressive notions of &#8220;economic justice.&#8221; The progressives who have suddenly discovered religion and its necessary role in politics &#8211; after thirty decades and more of stridently and rightly insisting it must be kept out of politics &#8211; are not sincere. After this temporary rhetorical bubble is over, they will resume their previous, also ad-hoc, declarations.</p>
<p>As for the &#8220;sociopath&#8221; accusation, this is what comes of copying attack website garbage. The whole thing rests upon one author &#8211; Michael Prescott&#8217;s &#8211; highly selective excerpting and chopping up of a private [i.e., thinking out loud without clarifications ] journal written when Rand was barely out of her teens, fresh from the blood bath of 1920s Soviet Russia &#8211; and still made it very clear that her read on the personalities of the observers showed that they were not appalled by Hickman&#8217;s crime &#8211; she said there had been far worse, without the same spectacle of glee &#8211; but by his flamboyant and mocking defiance of society. She &#8211; who was writing about a *legally innocent man* at the time of the trial &#8211; even called him a monster, a pervert, a repulsive and purposeless criminal. Enough with the disinformation and &#8211; yes &#8211; Satanizing of Ayn Rand.</p>
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		<title>By: jazzmann91</title>
		<link>http://g-a-i-a.org/opinion/atlas-shrugged//comment-page-1#comment-2048</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Apr 2011 18:44:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cool! It&#039;s becoming a movie: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6W07bFa4TzM&amp;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cool! It&#8217;s becoming a movie: <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6W07bFa4TzM" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6W07bFa4TzM</a>&</p>
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		<title>By: jazzmann91</title>
		<link>http://g-a-i-a.org/opinion/atlas-shrugged//comment-page-1#comment-245</link>
		<dc:creator>jazzmann91</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Apr 2010 20:56:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I saw no suggestion that the impoverished deserve to be impoverished.  The &quot;productive rich&quot; are the ones who do work hard.  The unproductive rich were the absolute villains of everyone, especially the impoverished.  They are the ones taxing everyone and living off the interest of other peoples work.

Thanks for your comment and your insight.  It&#039;s good to argue with you again.  I miss that.

Cheers,
s</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I saw no suggestion that the impoverished deserve to be impoverished.  The &#8220;productive rich&#8221; are the ones who do work hard.  The unproductive rich were the absolute villains of everyone, especially the impoverished.  They are the ones taxing everyone and living off the interest of other peoples work.</p>
<p>Thanks for your comment and your insight.  It&#8217;s good to argue with you again.  I miss that.</p>
<p>Cheers,<br />
s</p>
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		<title>By: G.Lyons</title>
		<link>http://g-a-i-a.org/opinion/atlas-shrugged//comment-page-1#comment-238</link>
		<dc:creator>G.Lyons</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Apr 2010 23:32:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmm.  We debated this a bit on Twitter, but I&#039;m curious where you stand on the various &quot;themes&quot; you outline: 
&quot;These include themes like: the strong are punished by the weak for their virtue; and the productive rich are plundered by the poor and unproductive for their wealth.  The path of freedom is held up at gunpoint and told to bow before the need of the “public good”.&quot;
This is what I mean by &quot;conservative claptrap.&quot;  The &quot;productive rich&quot; are not in that position merely because they work harder than the &quot;lazy&quot; looters.  There are also structural reasons for their privilege (perhaps they&#039;re men; perhaps they&#039;re white; perhaps they&#039;re born into a bourgeois class that affords them opportunities for education, work experience, investment; etc).  The way Atlas Shrugged suggests that the impoverished deserve to be impoverished is f*cked up, in my opinion.

None of which negates the emotional impact the book may have had with you at this very moment in your life.

~G.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmm.  We debated this a bit on Twitter, but I&#8217;m curious where you stand on the various &#8220;themes&#8221; you outline:<br />
&#8220;These include themes like: the strong are punished by the weak for their virtue; and the productive rich are plundered by the poor and unproductive for their wealth.  The path of freedom is held up at gunpoint and told to bow before the need of the “public good”.&#8221;<br />
This is what I mean by &#8220;conservative claptrap.&#8221;  The &#8220;productive rich&#8221; are not in that position merely because they work harder than the &#8220;lazy&#8221; looters.  There are also structural reasons for their privilege (perhaps they&#8217;re men; perhaps they&#8217;re white; perhaps they&#8217;re born into a bourgeois class that affords them opportunities for education, work experience, investment; etc).  The way Atlas Shrugged suggests that the impoverished deserve to be impoverished is f*cked up, in my opinion.</p>
<p>None of which negates the emotional impact the book may have had with you at this very moment in your life.</p>
<p>~G.</p>
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